Re:Whats the most dificult thing to....... 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago
Excuse me, I am not talking here of "perceptions to reality", ok? You did! The fact that you are in China, is real indeed, isn't it? Can it be imposed? You are the one who is actually imposing your own perceptions on things.
It is very simple, the reality is that it is hard to accept that you are indeed in another country sometimes, whether one accepts this or not. I do not impose this, why? No need for it is real.
Should I enumerate all G-man's criticisms, comparisons, and complaints here? Get it?
What's your point of showing those photos, it's out of the topic and not real in China. Again, because you cling to your own perception. Maybe to avoid reality, I don't know.
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Re:Whats the most dificult thing to....... 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago
zoeman wrote:
QUOTE: Excuse me, I am not talking here of "perceptions to reality", ok? You did!
Yes. In an attempt to help you make the distinction.
QUOTE: The fact that you are in China, is real indeed, isn't it?
yes, and also no - I can very easily have my body here while my mind and spirit are elsewhere... indeed very easily!
QUOTE: Can it be imposed?
absolutely!
QUOTE: You are the one who is actually imposing your own perceptions on things.
That was not my intention and I feel for you to have misunderstood my intent:
- I am sharing point of views that I may or may not adhere to; but the very fact that I can have them gives me ownership and expands my reality (increases the number and space of possible universes).
- My intent is to open the reader's horizon to a new point of view (reality) that he may or may not decide to adopt or own or share.
- In any event, the reader is free to decide to read or not.
QUOTE: It is very simple, the reality is that it is hard to accept that you are indeed in another country sometimes, whether one accepts this or not.
No, it is not.
However, the boatload of implications you want me to accept as being part of THAT reality is for me unacceptable - there are a lot more distinctions and special cases than these.
QUOTE: I do not impose this, why? No need for it is real.
Well, I accept that your intent was not, I still feel that somehow you do try to impose on me your reality that for you, being in another country, comes with a bagful of other "stuff" that I do not want - I want, need and will exercise my birthright, as a human, to discover and tell MY truth. However, as I see fit, I will adapt the timing and tone and words to avoid the sometimes dramatic consequences promised by the local human power structures in case I pissed them off!
QUOTE: Should I enumerate all G-man's criticisms, comparisons, and complaints here? Get it?B)
Why ask? do as you see fit!
No, I do not get it.
QUOTE: What's your point of showing those photos, it's out of the topic and not real in China.
I explained above. Are You still not trying to impose your reality on me?
QUOTE: Again, because you cling to your own perception. Maybe to avoid reality, I don't know.;)
Because that is the only reality I have, my own perceptions, enriched by yours and all other special cases collected from others along the way...
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Re:Whats the most dificult thing to....... 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago
Goldman wrote:
QUOTE: zoeman wrote:
QUOTE: Excuse me, I am not talking here of "perceptions to reality", ok? You did!
Yes. In an attempt to help you make the distinction.
QUOTE: The fact that you are in China, is real indeed, isn't it?
yes, and also no - I can very easily have my body here while my mind and spirit are elsewhere... indeed very easily!
QUOTE: Can it be imposed?
absolutely!
QUOTE: You are the one who is actually imposing your own perceptions on things.
That was not my intention and I feel for you to have misunderstood my intent:
- I am sharing point of views that I may or may not adhere to; but the very fact that I can have them gives me ownership and expands my reality (increases the number and space of possible universes).
- My intent is to open the reader's horizon to a new point of view (reality) that he may or may not decide to adopt or own or share.
- In any event, the reader is free to decide to read or not.
QUOTE: It is very simple, the reality is that it is hard to accept that you are indeed in another country sometimes, whether one accepts this or not.
No, it is not.
However, the boatload of implications you want me to accept as being part of THAT reality is for me unacceptable - there are a lot more distinctions and special cases than these.
QUOTE: I do not impose this, why? No need for it is real.
Well, I accept that your intent was not, I still feel that somehow you do try to impose on me your reality that for you, being in another country, comes with a bagful of other "stuff" that I do not want - I want, need and will exercise my birthright, as a human, to discover and tell MY truth. However, as I see fit, I will adapt the timing and tone and words to avoid the sometimes dramatic consequences promised by the local human power structures in case I pissed them off!
QUOTE: Should I enumerate all G-man's criticisms, comparisons, and complaints here? Get it?B)
Why ask? do as you see fit!
No, I do not get it.
QUOTE: What's your point of showing those photos, it's out of the topic and not real in China.
I explained above. Are You still not trying to impose your reality on me?
QUOTE: Again, because you cling to your own perception. Maybe to avoid reality, I don't know.;)
Because that is the only reality I have, my own perceptions, enriched by yours and all other special cases collected from others along the way...
And so? Bravo!! You are a special type... very interesting logic. Well, Logic is the science of correct thinking. Sorry, you think too much. In fact, you are bleeding. Ouch!
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Re:Whats the most dificult thing to....... 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago
zoeman wrote:
QUOTE: And so? :laugh: Bravo!! You are a special type... very interesting logic. Well, Logic is the science of correct thinking. Sorry, you think too much. In fact, you are bleeding. Ouch!:woohoo:
To the contrary, special case gathering & experimenting are more prone not to contrive my thinking and reality within a set of strict and arbitrary principles.
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Re:Whats the most dificult thing to....... 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago
All right fellas,,its nice to see that eveyones got the enthusiasm on the topic,real nice. But it was never my intention to raise any conflict between the X-pats,,never,,never,,so lets keep it enthusiastic,but at the same time lets not 4get we all mates here,,cheers everyone,,I do appreciate every single reply!!
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Re:Whats the most dificult thing to....... 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago
Panda-licking apologists who try to say that others have no right to complain or point out things that get on our nerves while using the same lame excuse of "China is a developing country."
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Bravo!! You are a special type... very interesting logic. Well, Logic is the science of correct thinking. Sorry, you think too much. In fact, you are bleeding. Ouch!
